Last Thursday, Flatmancrooked launched Emma Straub. Her novella, “Fly-Over State,” comes out in early October. Right now, patrons can “invest” in her career. In celebration of the book, the “launch” program, and wit in general, we present Elijah Jenkins’ interview with Emma. If you fall in love with her, please invest!
Flatmancrooked’s Elijah Jenkins: Straub!
Emma Straub: Jenkins!
Fmc: Y’all ready for this?
Emma: Do I need to start being proper at this point? We might be in trouble.
Fmc: Hmm. Sure.
Emma: I can rise to the occasion.
Fmc: Rise!
Emma: Hit me.
Fmc: Let’s start with some standards.
Emma: I love standards. I think for your next Raudio project, it should just be me singing standards.
Fmc: What was the first thing you wrote that you think would qualify as a story? And yes.
Emma: Oh, I have some of them. One early classic (pre-kindergarten, I believe) was a mystery novel.
Fmc: A whole novel?
Emma: It was all about grils, which was how I spelled ‘girls.’ I went to those schools where they let you spell things however you like. It ended with “the msssidri is iovaa.” Which meant, of course, ” the mystery is over.” My first novel, The Glass Elephant, did not appear until I was nine.
Fmc: What was TGE about?
Emma: It was a heist. There was a very expensive glass elephant-a sculptural piece of some kind, and it was stolen. The big plot twist occurred when the stolen elephant was dropped-and bounced! It had been replaced with a fake. My plots have gotten considerably less interesting, I must say.
Fmc: Damn, fake elephants! On plots, your stories certainly have a subtlety to them, if that is the right word. If you have to describe your current style, what would you say about it?
Emma: I think subtle is a good word. In my less generous moods, I would say boring. My husband gets mad at me when I describe my books/stories to people, because I make them sound like episodes of Seinfeld. Though of course there was always a lot happening on Seinfeld. I try to be funny, too. I think being funny, and entertaining, is hugely important. It’s a quality I like in almost everything: books, movies, people. Even in sad books and movies there should be some part that makes you laugh out loud. Lorrie Moore is very, very good at that.
Music, too. I work for ‘The Magnetic Fields,” and worked as Stephin Merritt’s personal assistant for many years, and I think that’s one of the reasons I love them so much. Funny + Sad = True.
Fmc: I agree with that, and maybe even the Seinfeld comparison, now that you mention it. I feel like, for instance in “Fly-Over State,” that where some authors might look for a blatant conflict to just hand the reader, your stories often times imply conflict. That makes them more personal and internal-more subtle. Would you agree with that?
Emma: My beloved John Hughes died yesterday, and I’ve been reading all about him, and this seems like a relevant point; he almost apologized for having had a happy childhood. I did, too. I think my plotlessness comes somewhat from having been afraid of conflict for my entire life. This will really make me look like a goody-two-shoes, but my mother yelled at me once. One time. I remember it very well. And my father’s Norwegian roots have instilled a certain silent storm, I’d say. It’s not that there isn’t conflict, or problems. It’s just that it’s more pleasant not to discuss them.
Fmc: Silent storm. That’s perfect. Go on, sorry.
Emma: Well, a silent storm and broad shoulders. Both are equally important. My great-grandfather worked for the telephone company in Lone Rock, Wisconsin, which is exactly as big as it sounds, and supposedly, his job was to carry the telephone poles. That may or may not be true. My mother also instituted something called the ’silent scream,’ which I sometimes still make my husband do. It’s where you open your mouth and pretend to scream but no sound comes out. It’s like yoga. You should try it.
Fmc: I walk around silent screaming all day long. Another question about “Fly-Over State”: So, you lived in a fly-over state for a bit, didn’t you? Can you tell me about your time there? I mean, I know this story is completely fictitious and any semblance it has to real people, places, and/or events is purely coincidental. But, nonetheless, how did living where you did influence this story?
Emma: You’re trying to get me in trouble. Yes, I moved to Madison, WI for my MFA, and subsequently stayed another year, for the Wisconsin Institute Fellowship. Moving to Wisconsin was funny, because my parents both grew up in Milwaukee and went to school in Madison, and (as a good, awful New York City youth) I had always made fun of them for it.
But Madison is a truly wonderful place. My MFA was tiny-there were only six of us-and so it felt like we were all on this little ice floe together. That said, it was a major adjustment from New York, where one does not interact with her neighbors. And one certainly doesn’t offer to drive her delinquent teenage neighbors to buy pornography. I also worked with Lorrie Moore in Wisconsin. After she read this story, Lorrie told me to work on it as much as I could as FAST as I could, to keep noticing the tiny weirdnesses of Wisconsin before it all began to seem normal to me. Though she would not have used the word ‘fast,’ certainly.
I think this should be a co-interview, Elijah. Don’t you think people will want to know about LAUNCH? And how smartly you’re going to revitalize the publishing industry?
Fmc: Whatcha mean? Ah, well. (blush) (blush) (giggle)
Emma: Really, though.
Emma: How did you guys come up with this idea? I know it all happened very fast.
Fmc: Sure. Everything around here does. It was pretty simple really. We are still a small company which gives us far greater agility and, dare I say, courage than large houses. We can brainstorm with the entire staff in a room, come up with an idea, and move on it almost instantaneously. LAUNCH came about as one answer to a very simple set of questions we are always asking ourselves. . .
Emma: Why is Emma so good looking?
Fmc: Good bone structure!
Emma: Sorry, go on.
Fmc: What did publishing once have that made it a lucrative industry? And, I suppose, how can we get that back? The answer is patrons and readers.
Emma: So, you are Sylvia Beach. And I am Ernest Hemingway?
Fmc: Perhaps.
Emma: Oh, sad. Sorry, go on.
Fmc: You can be Ernest Hemingway. That said, we have decided to make all of our readers Sylvia Beach. All public companies have built themselves on investment. We’re just giving that privilege back to the readers, except the return they get for their “investment” is a book and the peace of mind that they helped support a talented new writer. In that way, we are making our patrons a crucial part of building our company and the careers of our authors. Also, we aren’t interested in the old way of publishing 100 books in hopes one success pays for the other 99 failures. Instead, we’re publishing work only of the utmost quality and then telling our patrons, “Look, if you want this to exist, help us make it happen!” It’s really all very exciting.
Emma: That is so great. I think we’re all seeing that the ‘let’s throw everything at the wall and see what sticks’ model doesn’t work anymore.
Fmc: Indeed. The lists of major houses nowadays are ridiculous. You can’t possibly be personally, artistically, and professionally invested in the work of 250 authors a season. And I think that people know that. We could certainly put out more books, but we’re looking for the combination of a great story and an author with the potential to change and add to literature, the craft of writing, and the industry.
Emma: That is so super!
Fmc: I know. So, now it’s my turn again. You studied under Lorrie Moore, an amazing writer and one of my favorites. And your father (hate to bring parents into this) is Peter Straub, a wildly successful author (I am reading Shadowland right now) and force in the horror world. How did these two amazing people influence you and your craft?
Emma: Ha. Very differently, I’d say. I feel very lucky to have a working writer as a parent. Most people don’t have a model so close to home. I think the most important lesson I learned from my father was that writing was a job, just like being a banker or a window-cleaner, that you had to show up to everyday.
My father’s office is at the top of my parents’ house, and he has a very strict schedule. He goes up, he comes down for lunch, he goes back up, he comes down for dinner. I learned very early that writing had very little to do with waiting for the muse to arrive. It’s work. You have to sit in the chair and do it.
Fmc: And, Lorrie?
Emma: Oh, Lorrie is incredible. I think in another life she was a dancer or something. She is totally graceful and mesmerizing, and so generous. I went to Wisconsin because I loved her work, and she has been so kind to me. The major difference between my father and Lorrie is that when I’m having trouble with a story, my father always tells me to kill someone off. Lorrie doesn’t say that. I think she taught me to tighten my prose, to really look at the sentences themselves. She’s also very good with endings. On the bottom of the page of a story I workshopped in her class, she wrote, in her beautiful handwriting, “You are a wonderful and amazing writer.” I cut it out and framed it. The best part is, I have no idea what story it was.
Fmc: That’s grand! I am filled with envy. One last question.
Emma: Now I feel like Jeremy Piven talking about how he lost Obama’s telephone number. Yes, anything.
Fmc: You also run a design company with your husband, the designer Michael Fusco (M + E). Does your work with Mike effect or carry over to your writing? Can Mike dance?
Emma: That is more than one question.
Fmc: No, it’s not.
Emma: But I will answer them all. Yes, Mike can dance. And he does. While working, while driving, while cleaning the floor. I am really a nudge in terms of visual art. I have a lot of ideas. I was always a photographer as a kid, and I still like to do that more than anything else. But with Mike, and M + E, we do a lot of silk screening, which is sort of a lark. He and I almost always work well together, except when we don’t. I’m not sure that it carries over into my writing, though. It’s nice to quit for a while and do something with your hands. Don’t you think?
Fmc: I do. I went rock climbing this morning and broke my knuckle, which is why I was late.
Emma: You poor thing. I didn’t know one could break a knuckle. That sounds like a trip to the ER. Oh, also! I want to tell you about the love letters.
Fmc: Love letters, you say?
Emma: Love letters!
Fmc: Do tell.
Emma: Here’s my thought: since people are doing something nice for me, by buying this book, I want to do something nice for them. So if the people who invests in me email me their mailing addresses, I will write them a love letter.
Fmc: To them or for them?
Emma: To them! I wouldn’t presume to know who or what they themselves love. But I love them. That I know.
Fmc: Handwritten, typed, or printed? Will it smell of love?
Emma: Handwritten, of course. It may smell of cats, depending on how close my four-legged beasts are.
Emma: A small price to pay for love. Thanks for asking such nice questions. And for sending me into space. That is where I’m being launched, isn’t it?
Fmc: Indeed, and you’re very welcome.
Emma: Ta ta!
By Elijah Jenkins
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